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THE HOUSE OF SETON OF SCOTLAND

 

Updated:  Monday  16 May 2005

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The Early Family of Seton

Seton Collegiate Church, Seton, East Lothian.As their own distinctive crescents show, Seier de Seton and his brother Walter sprang from a second son of the house of Boulogne. Known in their Flemish homeland as Seier and Walter de Lens, they were sons of Count Eustace I ’s second son, Count Lambert de Lens, whose daughter by a second marriage (to the sister of William the Conqueror) was the Countess Judith, mother of Scotland’s Queen Maud.

 Seier’s eldest son, Walter de Lens, or Walter the Fleming as he is described in Domesday, had his chief English home at Wahull (now called Odell) in Bedfordshire. On the Firth of Forth, as heir there of his father, Seier, he was called Dougall or "the dark stranger", a nickname which was also given to his own son Walter, and duly recorded by the family’s chronicler, Sir Richard Maitland of Lethington, in 1554.

The son of the 1st Seier de Seton, of de Lens, is known as Dougall de Setoun and his Christian name was Walter, however he was usually described by a familiar appellation in the language of the Scots people around him.  He married Janet, daughter of Robert de Quincy (and not of Roger, who lived a century later) and had a son also called Seier (2nd) who is often confused with his grandfather.  Dougall de Setoun, was baron of the town and lands of Setoun, and he flourished in the reign of Alexander I., A.D. 1107-1124. His wife’s father, Robert de Quincy, had married Maud de St. Liz, daughter of Simon de St. Liz, Earl of Huntington and Northhampton and Maud, or Matilda, the elder of the two daughters of Waltheof, Earl of Northumberland and Judith de Lens, the niece to King William I of England.  To appreciate these ties, note that William married Matilda of Flanders, a cousin of Dougall. Likewise, Dougall’s grandfather married as his 2nd wife Adele, or Adelaide, of Normandy, William's sister; it made the Setoun’s cousins of the King and his sons, William II and Henry I. Henry I married the daughter of Malcolm III, King of the Scots; and 2nd, Adela of Bas-Lorraine, a cousin of Count Lambert Lens, Dougall’s grandfather.  Malcom III’s youngest son, later King David I, married Matilda the 2nd daughter of Waltheof, Earl of Northumberland.  By all counts the early family of de Seton was well connected with many of the Royal Houses.

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Seier de Seton, the 1st de Seton and of de Lens

Walter (Dougall) and Seier II (Walter) de Seton

Philip, Alexander and Bertram de Seton

Adam and Sir Christopher (1) de Seton

Sir Christopher (2) and Sir Christopher (3) de Seton

Alexander (2), Alexander (3) and Alexander (4) de Seton

The Heiress Margaret de Seton and Alan de Winton

 

The Early Seton Descent